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aheadofthegame Member Posts: 3 |
posted August 09, 2002 10:29 PM
We have ran into a little problem recently and while I can speculate with my own opinions, I just wanted to throw this out there and get some (opinions) from others. We run a polyester strapping line built by SIMA. 180mmm screw with a capable guaranteed output of 1600 pph. IP: Logged |
Steve H Moderator Posts: 386 |
posted August 10, 2002 06:12 AM
Lack of lubrication sounds reasonable to me- How hard was it to extract the screw? Steve H IP: Logged |
Peter P Senior Member Posts: 61 |
posted August 11, 2002 06:32 PM
Your explanation has one major flaw - if the screw was to fail in shear, it would do so at the weakest point, which in a normal screw is where the channel depth is greatest and the root diameter is smallest, that is to say, in the feed section. I would start looking for a fault in the screw in the region of the break. Regards, Peter P IP: Logged |
Steve H Moderator Posts: 386 |
posted August 12, 2002 03:19 PM
Peter is correct when he states that the screw should have failed at the weakest point and that there must have been a structural flaw at the point that it broke. But the event that caused the flaw to fail is the lack of lubrication and support the melt provides a turning screw. Incoming material is the major source of cooling in a plastic extruder, the heat build up as a result of lack of feed would expand the screw causing it to bind. How long had the screw operated satisfactorily for before it broke? or at least was found to be broken (if the two occurences are unconected) What is the material the screw is constructed from? Chris Rauwendaal published a paper at ANTEC a few years ago- Screws made from corrosion resistant materials were likely to bind as a result of the differing rates of thermal expansion between the barrel and screw, in this paper he states that Finite Element Analysis indicated that the screw temp in the metering zone could be quite a bit higher than the barrel. Steve H [This message has been edited by Steve H (edited 08-14-2002).] IP: Logged |
aheadofthegame Member Posts: 3 |
posted August 14, 2002 03:02 PM
Thanks for the info. To answer, the line has been in mostly continuous operation for about 5 years without the screw being removed. I have been with this particular company just over 2 years and for the most part this has been the biggest mechanical failure to date. There are procedures that are followed here that in my past experiences were concidered taboo if you will. I like to think being in this line of work for better than 12 years I've learned or experienced alot, but here, nothing surprises me anymore. Reguarding the possiblity of a structural flaw in this screw that may have led to the breakage, I could probably come up with dozens of contributing reasons. I may be wrong, this is just a practice I've used in the past, and like I said before, Ive never seen a broken screw. And I've ran lines better than 25 years old with the original screw... with no problems. Thanks again for the info. I stumbled across this site looking for a information resource, they always say knowledge is power. IP: Logged |
shland Member Posts: 2 |
posted March 29, 2006 09:16 PM
I also have some question on SIMA extrusion , could you kindly advise the SIMA technical contact? or recommend someothers making polyester strapping line? thanks IP: Logged |
Stephen J. Derezinski Senior Member Posts: 54 |
posted March 31, 2006 08:31 AM
I have seen this type of breakage a number of times. Checking the barrel for straightness is a logical step, but difficult to do with a hot barrel. I did some research and modeling of screw temperature, http://www.extrudertech.com/antec2000.pdf, with heat conduction in the screw. I found that there is a large temperature difference between the flight tip and the screw root. The gradient is greatest in sections with shallow channels. This leads to thermal stresses in the flight and at the flight root. I believe this is a major contributor to such screw breakage of large screws in areas of shallow channel depth. Larger radius fillets at the screw root could help. This is also good to elimnate dead spots in the flow, as has been suggested by others. Correspond, steve@extrudertech.com ------------------ IP: Logged |
Tom C Moderator Posts: 737 |
posted March 31, 2006 09:28 AM
Screws that I have seen fail in the metering section were running resins (I think POM) that would propagate cracks when the resin leaked into the crack and degraded. As you can see I'm fuzzy on the details, but the effect was very similar to what is described here. Anyone have details on this effect? Tom C IP: Logged |
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