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Tom C
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posted January 19, 2004 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom C   Click Here to Email Tom C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone have any insights on how to determine if a crammer feeder will be required before setting up an extruder with a powdered resin feed?

Are there any rules of thumb regarding density, polymer type, or particle size?

Do tests on smaller extruders relate to powder feeding performance on larger extruders?

Any thoughts would be helpful.

Thanks,

Tom C

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Tom C
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posted January 21, 2004 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom C   Click Here to Email Tom C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some help please!

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Tom C
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posted January 21, 2004 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom C   Click Here to Email Tom C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So far I have found some possible criteria for needing a crammer feeder (these appear to be all and/or):

1) The bulk density is < X
2) The compressibility is > Y
3) Then angle of repose is > Z
4) The coefficient of friction at low pressure is < A and improves with pressure
5) The particle size is < B

If anyone has suggestions or expereince with X,Y.Z.A or B please share.

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Tom C

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zabielski
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posted January 22, 2004 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zabielski   Click Here to Email zabielski     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tom: I've used a crammer/feeder for recycled "fluff' from film in the past, and the trick is to hook up the unit as a typical "on top of the feed zone" senario. However, the surge bin was pressurized slightly, and off-set to the side. The material was then augered to the crammer/feeder. I used a PLC to control everything and it took quite awhile to train people on how to adjust everything.

Relative to an exacting equation for powders, I can only suggest you contact a crammer/feeder Company - and demand a gaurantee of performance.

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Tom C
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posted January 23, 2004 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom C   Click Here to Email Tom C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ken,

This is the deal. A customer has asked me to redesign a single screw so extrusion performance with powders is better. As usually they want a "Universal" powder screw. My experience is that some powders require a crammer feeder, while others don't. Presently some powder just get crammers automatically.

I have a whole lot of technology available to me where I can engineer the best possible feeding characterisitics in a screw for a powder without a crammer. However I believe there is a dividing line where I can't depend on an optimized screw alone, and will require a crammer for good output.

I now believe that working with tests as above I will be able to determine which way to go early in the design process, crammer or no crammer required.

Tom C

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Steve H
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posted January 23, 2004 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve H   Click Here to Email Steve H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tom

Have you talked to Skip Thacker, he's got a wealth of experiance on handling PVC powder and might be able to offer an insight (or two)

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2beeps
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posted January 25, 2004 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2beeps   Click Here to Email 2beeps     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tom,
My experience is primarily PVC, as you know.
For Rigid PVC powder dryblend extrusion on single screw extruders (regardless of density,etc.), I feel a crammer is an essential tool to help control positive, uniform feeding to the extruder. Copied below is an exerpt from my little PVC extrusion book, contrasting single and twin screw extrusion of Rigid PVC Powder Blends.

Other than fluff from film scrap, I'm not familiar with other powdered extrusion materials, but I feel a crammer would be helpful in all cases, regardless of screw design, as a way to insure full screws.

Sorry for the length of this---wasn't sure where to cut it off!!

Regards, Skip

EXTRUSION: ATTRIBUTES OF SINGLE & TWIN SCREW MACHINES

Extrusion - The Machines

1. Single Screw Extrusion - Successful single screw extrusion of rigid PVC powder is dependent upon developing shear, at high RPM (25-80) and high compression (2.8 -3.5:1) in order to generate sufficient work to insure adequate fusion, a uniform melt and full achievement of physical properties.

At these high RPMs the material's radial velocity in the screw flight differs substantially when comparing material next to the screw with material next to the barrel. This contributes to shear and frictional heat buildup, as well as non-uniform melt viscosity of material entering the die.

A typical single screw extruder capable of handling rigid PVC powder blends has an L/D ratio of at least 24:1, is vented for removal of volatiles, and has a two stage screw with a decompression zone at the vent. The screw is also cored for oil temperature control.

In a standard screw , material transport depends on the helix angle of the screw flights as well as flight depth. As the helix angle decreases, material transport increases and frictional shear (slippage) decreases.

It would seem, then, that efficient material transport leading to high output rates and low shear can be readily achieved by reducing the helix angle. However, the need to achieve a uniform, homogeneous melt requires certain constraints on screw geometry. Rigid PVC melting starts on the leading edge of the screw flight. As an uneven melt temperature exists throughout the flight, the coolest (last to fuse) compoundis in the center of the flight.

Therefore, the helix angle must be large enough to provide a certain amount of slippage (shear) of the material to hasten melt uniformity in the flight, but not too large to hinder material transport (output). Higher RPMs are used to help develop the shear which overcomes unequal melt temperatures in the screw flights.

Also, the use of vertical hopper "crammer-feeders" helps to maintain output rates by providing a positive force feeding of powdered PVC to the feed zone of the screw,which also helps to minimize the typical "surging" of single screw extruders.
Some of the new single screw machines are considerably longer (30:1 to 32:1 LD), which permits the use of somewhat less rigorous processing conditions due to longer residence time in the barrel to achieve a more uniform melt.

The screw design of many single screw machines now includes mixing pins,secondary flow channels, or other features to aid in developing a homo-geneous melt.

2. Twin Screw Extrusion - The rapid growth of rigid vinyl markets in Europe and Japan began several years earlier than in the United States, so it is not surprising to find many rigid PVC processing and formulating developments originating overseas. One such development, the twin screw extruder, has been in widespread use both in Europe and Japan for many years. Within the last thirty years, the twin screw extruder achieved a significant position in the United States rigid PVC market. Features of multiscrew extrusion that dovetail so well with the processing requirements of rigid PVC have been long recognized by the pipe extrusion industry in this country. Many are also becoming aware that these same features apply equally to rigid vinyl siding,profile and sheet extrusion processing requirements.

There are a variety of twin screw designs on the market which are characterized mainly by screw rotation and screw geometry. Co-rotating screws(such as LMP Columbo) are available,and used primarily for compounding, but counter-rotating screws (such as
Krauss-Maffei, Maplan, Cicinnati, and Milacron) are more prevalent for processing rigid PVC into finished pipe or profile.
Most counter-rotating screw extruders move material in a diverging direction at the top of the screws, around the flights, converging at the bottom of the screws. Thus, the twin screw extruder is in effect a positive displacement gear pump which conveys material at fairly low RPM with low compression and very low friction (low shear). This results in a more constant melt flow,and lower PVC melt temperatures (185-200 C)than single screws Lower melt temperatures minimize sizing problems of complicated profile extrusions, and the constant melt flow reduces the overweight factor to 3-5%.
This difference in overweight, as it applies to pipe extrusion, can be significant in terms of a year's production. For example, a typical single screw extruder produces pipe at 10% overweight (to maintain minimum specified wall thickness) while a twin screw extruder produces pipe at 5% overweight.
That 5% difference in overweight (material given away) is enough to pay for another extruder in one or two years!

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