Ask the experts! These processors and consultants have been there and done that. Post your enigma now!


UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone!
  Plastic processing forums for extrusion information and advice and for other feed screw applications.
  Extrusion, Single Screw
  rigid and flex bonding

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   rigid and flex bonding
cadcamjim
Senior Member

Posts: 8
From:
Registered: Oct 2003

posted November 15, 2004 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cadcamjim   Click Here to Email cadcamjim     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone had success running rigid with flex pvc thru water and get a proper bond while increasing line speed substantially ?

IP: Logged

lily72ca
Senior Member

Posts: 8
From:ON Canada
Registered: Oct 2004

posted November 16, 2004 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lily72ca   Click Here to Email lily72ca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you mean coextrusion? I do run my coextrusion profile (rigid PVC & flexible PVC) through the water tank. It works very well.

IP: Logged

cadcamjim
Senior Member

Posts: 8
From:
Registered: Oct 2003

posted November 16, 2004 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cadcamjim   Click Here to Email cadcamjim     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Coextrusion. We want to try running the rigid pvc with a flex hinge on it thru the water at an increased linespeed. What I was worried about is if the bond will be affected due to the sudden shock hitting the water. The flex hinge has to bond pretty good to prevent separation from the rigis. Hope this helps.

IP: Logged

lily72ca
Senior Member

Posts: 8
From:ON Canada
Registered: Oct 2004

posted November 16, 2004 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lily72ca   Click Here to Email lily72ca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it was from the coextrusion die, I can not see any problem with the adhensive. If it was extruded from two dies, then laminated, it shouldnot have a big problem. How fast do you want to run? Which kind of profile you are running on which type of extruder?

IP: Logged

cadcamjim
Senior Member

Posts: 8
From:
Registered: Oct 2003

posted November 16, 2004 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cadcamjim   Click Here to Email cadcamjim     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The coextrusion is running from a single die. It's running on a single screw
2 1/2"dia. 24:1 ratio air cooled barrel around 6fpm now to air table. RIgid profile is nothing funky but the flex hinge has to bond 2 profiles of rigid together and hold to a specified strength test. There are also numerous flex projections on the part which must remain at proper angles to rigid and good adhesion as well. They are hoping to push it out faster like (15-20 fpm) into the water. My main concern was if the faster speed will affect the adhesion strength of the flex to the rigin when it is shocked hitting the water.
Thanks for the input Lily.

Ps. check your mail.

IP: Logged

Lily
Senior Member

Posts: 5
From:CANADA
Registered: Oct 2004

posted November 20, 2004 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lily   Click Here to Email Lily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not quite sure about yours. We use water cooling system at 1800 ft/hr without any problem (We do not have lab shear test, just operators tear the flexible part by hand to see it would come off.) I don't know if it will help.

IP: Logged

All times are ET (US)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Feed Screw Designs

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.45a