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Extrusion, Single Screw Turning HDPE milkjugs into T-Shirt bags?
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russellburrows Member Posts: 4 |
posted January 25, 2006 03:29 AM
First of all hi and thank you for reading this. We have a Rodofeli brand single screw extruder(60 mm) that we are going to take online in a few days once it is hooked up. My wife noticed that milkjugs have the HDPE symbol but everyone tells me that turning milkjugs into HDPE film is impossible. I am going to try pelletizing a few clean jugs and using this mix in our extruder. But. I am told the usual mix of linear is a 20% to 30% mix when using virgin HDPE. I am wondering if the fraility and fragility of a film made using milkjugs can be overcome by using a 50% to 60% mix of linear (Westlake I guess unless someone tells me a better choice?) and a 50% to 40% mix of the pelletized milkjugs to form a better and more resistant film for making T-Shirt bags. Just wondering since I have no idea what to try other than re-reading my new extruder manual(single screw ). Yes I have 100% virgin material for regular production but please bear with me as I am very interested in trying out the milkjug HDPE idea as a hobby project when not making regular film for plastic bags. Hmmm I wonder if it will work if I try 75% to 90% of linear and the rest of milkjug HDPE ? Any other product that I can add to the pelletized milkjug HDPE to improve linearity, durability, stability? I know its going to be hard to do but its just something that I have to try and try until I either get a mix that works or I get this idea out of my system. Thanks for any help that you folks on this forum can toss my way. Later. Russ. To try and fail is not failure but only learning.,the true failure is to never try at all and instead only wonder at what may have resulted. IP: Logged |
griffex Senior Member Posts: 33 |
posted January 30, 2006 12:15 AM
You can mix milk jugs which are usually 0.3-melt index HDPE with linear or regular LDPE, in just about any proportions, but you get different properties with different mixtures, and you need very good mixing. The latter can be overcome by a tight screen pack, water inside the screw, a static mixer (see Kenics, Sulzer, others websites) or running more slowly. Some screws mix better than others, but I like to avoid buying new machinery where possible. The resin used for milk jugs is in fact the same as used for film, with some additive variations. Cooling of HDPE is quite different from LDPE -- blowup ratios are higher (to 5:1) and cooling is restrained to allow the tube to rise around 8 diameters and draw down first before it blows out to final bubble diameter. Warning about the milk jugs or almost any recycle: contamination. You'll need to screen well to keep bits and pieces out of the film, which might break the bubble, weaken the product or just make it look bad. Further comment on Westlake: just naming a source doesn't fix the material. You need to specify density and melt index at the least, and there are finer variations too, based on additives and different molecular structures. One "size" doesn't fit all. Buena suerte, espero que este le ayuda. Allan Griff algriff@griffex.com IP: Logged |
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