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Author Topic:   Copolymer vs. Homopolymer PP
Tom C
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posted March 02, 2009 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As some of you already know I have and online extrusion calculator found at www.ExtrusionTechnicalServices.com .
One curiosity found in developing the calculator was the polypropylene was less efficient than most other polymers studied. Typically polypropylene extrudes at rates 25-30% below that of polymers of equivalent melt density, like polyethylene. This has also been observed by some researchers.
I am now looking into some "High Rate" PP screws and note that some are running copolymer PP. Copolymer PP contains some low percentage of polyethylene. The question now becomes are the higher rates due to the screw design, the copolymer, or both?
I don't have a lot of data on copolymer polypropylene production rates so I’m asking if anyone cares to share, it would be appreciated.

What I need;
Screw diameter
Vented or not
L :D up to the vent or die
Screw PRM
Output rate
Type of resin (Copolymer Polypropylene)
MI of the resin
Discharge Pressure

Thanks for your help.


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Tom Cunningham
www.ExtrusionTechnicalServices.com

[This message has been edited by Tom C (edited March 02, 2009).]

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Makeit Work
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posted July 24, 2009 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Makeit Work     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We get about 300 pph with a 4.5: 24:1 at 55pms at 3500 psi.
DSBM screw

MI 4.3
CopolymerPP

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Tom C
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posted July 24, 2009 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the feedback.

The high back pressure makes it hard to judge. Generally I have found that copolymer PP (PP-C) does not suffer the same loss of rate as homopolymer PP (PP-H). The calculator is set up to reflect that.

Calculator found at:
www.ExtrusionTechnicalServices.com

Your head pressure is high so that may be reducing your output below the calculator result. The screw might be cut deeper than what optimal for your application. Also at high pressures the screw may deflect resulting in wear, which will reduce the specific output rate.

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Tom Cunningham

www.ExtrusionTechnicalServices.com

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novadan
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posted September 15, 2009 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for novadan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
after reading this post I now no what PP-c and PP-h means on the calculator!!!

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Tom C
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posted September 15, 2009 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tom C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even after 32 years I am still learning things about extrusion all the time.

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Tom Cunningham

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