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Anonymous557
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posted October 25, 2002 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anonymous557   Click Here to Email Anonymous557     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I need a recommendation for a single screw design for wood/plastic composit material.

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TomBlack
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posted March 10, 2003 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomBlack   Click Here to Email TomBlack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happy to help or look things over. Let me know...


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posted June 11, 2003 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sef   Click Here to Email Sef     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am also looking for a screw design for wood filled plastics. We are currently using a twin-screw, but the mixing zone gives a too high shear rate. This causes the wood fibers to break, giving the material inferior optical effects. I am now looking for another screw design for either a twin-screw or a single screw which, in that case, we will have to accuire. But perhaps just by adjusting the mixing zone of the twin screw by using a backwards flight angle instead of a compounding zone, the problem can be solved easily

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posted June 11, 2003 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomBlack   Click Here to Email TomBlack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sef,

It sounds like you're on the right track. Regarding the twin, you may want to try short lead (conveying) elements typically used to create a melt seal prior to devolatization. In this way, you will induce a greater cumulative strain rate at relatively low shear, thereby minimizing any damage to the fiber aspect ratio. It will be important to keep the wood fiber moving as it has a tendency to degrade quickly, and I fear the reverse flight elements may lead to degradation.

Are you currently adding wood fiber to your process or processing a precompounded wood/plastic composite material?

tom black www.ppsincorp.com

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posted June 12, 2003 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sef   Click Here to Email Sef     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your advice. Just one more question. I've spoken to one of our suppliers about our current problem. He suggested a side feeder. In this case the polymer and pigments are well dispersed before the wood fibers are brought in. Also the wood fibers are mixed in an already liquid-like material. This might help to disperse and distribute the fibers better and by using a milder mixing section the fibers will remain intact. Can you tell me if this is a good road to pursuit?

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posted June 12, 2003 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TomBlack   Click Here to Email TomBlack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sef,

This sounds interesting. The thing w/ wood fiber compounding is that no technology has emerged as a clear technology leader. In this context, ask a number of different suppliers and you'll get a number of different answers as to what is the correct approach. In my experience, the wood filler is fed first and the screw allowed to run starved for a number of turns in an attempt to help dry out the wood filler (it typically carries a moisture content of as high as 8%). Somewhere downstream, a combi-barrel is incorporated to devolatize moisture from the wood filler and feed the polymer material. Clearly this approach differs from that which you've described which is more in-line w/ traditional fiber processing. If has been found that (in single screw extrusion) fibers are routinely broken down in the compression area at the end of the screw feed section. To avoid this, processors have routinely added their fibers downstream through a vent port, where the fiber can be encapsulated by the polymer melt which reduces its' abrasive character ( ) and its' cumulative shear stress history. However, be forewarned that fiber addition in this location has a tendency to aggregate as the fiber has an affinity for each other, which may lead to the need for shear mixing elements to reduce fiber agglomeration. This is not as bad as it sounds as statistically most fibers orient themselves to the shear plane and go through the zones of high shear with very little change in aspect ratio.


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posted June 16, 2003 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sef   Click Here to Email Sef     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your help. Unfortunately, the project is posponed, due to other more pressing matters. I hope that I can return the favour in the future.

Sef Hovens

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